requesting to warn "otto von bismark"

[kuchenmond 2]

Your name in-game: James Gold

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:185202215

Person's you report name: Otto Von Bismark

Person's you report SteamID: STEAM_0:1:419397528

Why do you want him banned warned?:

Otto Von Bismark ordered all MTFs to facescan any person in the site, this caused someone to find out that the ISD exists and that i am a member of it.

Evidence(It's a must. If not provided, request is denied.):

[random face scan] [proof for steamid]

[Phil. K 7]

1. You were chasing him around for no reason, could be very evident that you are a CI Spy especially considering you only move as soon as he has his back turned and runs into areas.

2. You are suppose to be doing your job as a member of the ISD, not standing around baiting people to face-scan you so you can arrest and report them. This is why nobody likes ISD and why it'll never be a role used for RP and will just forever add to the TDM shitfest with people like you playing it.

3. Why did you even arrest him anyways, you look extremely retarded arresting him for what, doing his job and face-scanning you after you stalked him for doing his job? On-top of that even if it was for you to call a staff member after the face-scan, you cuffing him is taking staff matters into your own hands if you believe he broke the rules.

Simple fact is, if you were doing your job as ISD correctly by actually Roleplaying you wouldn't even be in this situation where you feel the need to write such a stupid thread like this.

-1, retard.

[Fritz J. Richtofen 1]

-1

 

You were kinda following him, If I was being followed, I would have done the same thing.

You also had no real reason to arrest him, he was doing what he was supposed to do.

[Norra 447]

reminder this isnt about the E-11, this is about the SD ordering ID checks on everyone which has evidence

[Atomik 248]

On 6/21/2020 at 7:40 PM, Centurion said:

2. You are suppose to be doing your job as a member of the ISD, not standing around baiting people to face-scan you so you can arrest and report them. This is why nobody likes ISD and why it'll never be a role used for RP and will just forever add to the TDM shitfest with people like you playing it.

monkey mad monkey need banana (clearly dont know how ISD works btw, they are meant to blend in, not constantly fucking taze people and cum via taser)

 

+1

Whilst people are talking about the E-11 for some reason, the SD shouldnt have ordered ID checks on everyone for no reason.  The only time i'd see this as acceptable is in a certain area, or to a certain job (like CI being seen as a Janitor or something).  Ordering facescan of the entire site just seems like an idiotic way to root out any CI, and accidentally got you in that mess.  You did good in that situation, and you handled it professionally instead of acting like a retard (as ISD).  Dont know why theres a hate boner in this thread for no reason, as the SD clearly was in the wrong, and you were just following protocol.

Edited June 23, 2020 by Atomik

[Jason Ray 82]

On 6/22/2020 at 1:40 AM, Centurion said:

1. You were chasing him around for no reason, could be very evident that you are a CI Spy especially considering you only move as soon as he has his back turned and runs into areas.

2. You are suppose to be doing your job as a member of the ISD, not standing around baiting people to face-scan you so you can arrest and report them. This is why nobody likes ISD and why it'll never be a role used for RP and will just forever add to the TDM shitfest with people like you playing it.

3. Why did you even arrest him anyways, you look extremely retarded arresting him for what, doing his job and face-scanning you after you stalked him for doing his job? On-top of that even if it was for you to call a staff member after the face-scan, you cuffing him is taking staff matters into your own hands if you believe he broke the rules.

Simple fact is, if you were doing your job as ISD correctly by actually Roleplaying you wouldn't even be in this situation where you feel the need to write such a stupid thread like this.

-1, retard.

Can the retard im quoting stop being a retard? thank you

[Shadow 103]

On 6/22/2020 at 1:40 AM, Centurion said:

1. You were chasing him around for no reason, could be very evident that you are a CI Spy especially considering you only move as soon as he has his back turned and runs into areas.

2. You are suppose to be doing your job as a member of the ISD, not standing around baiting people to face-scan you so you can arrest and report them. This is why nobody likes ISD and why it'll never be a role used for RP and will just forever add to the TDM shitfest with people like you playing it.

3. Why did you even arrest him anyways, you look extremely retarded arresting him for what, doing his job and face-scanning you after you stalked him for doing his job? On-top of that even if it was for you to call a staff member after the face-scan, you cuffing him is taking staff matters into your own hands if you believe he broke the rules.

Simple fact is, if you were doing your job as ISD correctly by actually Roleplaying you wouldn't even be in this situation where you feel the need to write such a stupid thread like this.

-1, retard.

Ayyy it's the retard! Long time no see. I see you're still braindead...good good.

1. You're retarded

2. You don't even play probably lol. 

3. You're such a retard 

 

Now for the SD 

+1 Yeah he's an idiot

[Phil. K 7]

On 6/23/2020 at 10:25 AM, Xhorinhas said:

-First, Internal Security Department is tasked to oversee the site, that means look for any law breakers, mainteain the peace around the site, or look for infiltrators. He wasn´t baiting anyone, he was just seeing what the Commander was doing as what a good ISD Agent would do. 
-Second, Internal Security Department is classified. Only member of the Foundation Administration, A-1 and B-1 are allowed to know some of the agents (if they wish to be known). He cuffed him so the Commander could sign a secrecy contract (you know RP) to keep his cover up safe.

I don´t even know why i am explaining this to a braindead like you who wrongly judges people from the cape of the book even tho has 0 experience with them, so slow your toxicity and retardness for a second. Maybe also having common sense and more braincells idk?? 

 

As for the the warn +1                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

I don´t see a valid reason to do it, since no major raids or anyting happened on that time (only a little bit later). The E11 CMD did nothing wrong as well, since he was following orders, and tbh, he did fine considering that he could have arrested/shot on sight the Service Personnel for not complying.

 

- Internal Security Department are members of their respective Departments handed extra responsibility to root out deep cover traitors within their respective departments whilst still carrying out their job. A Service Personnel (A D Class) with a taser and cuffs running around cuffing people doesn't exactly match what the Internal Security Department is.

- Cuffed him so he could sign a "secrecy contract", sorry but from my experience. That's never ever happened to me, I just get thrown in the cells for "breaking cover" and/or "attempting to detain a member of the ISD", then I get demoted by the SD or executed after waiting 10 minutes facing the wall in a jail cell with no trial. So I believe my assumption is fair in saying that this guy probably just got thrown in the cells and no actual procedural follow-up was even carried out.

- Simple fact is, if a full-site face-scan is being issued, he should either participate or report to the SD to report back to him and maintain his cover. If his cover is that important, he should take steps to preserve it, not run around aimlessly like a monkey following the on-site Security who have been tasked to break people's cover. It makes 0 sense and nobody should be warned for what happened, it is clear that this player is at fault in every respect and angle possible in this situation. And even then playing it off becomes impossible because he went and cuffed the MTF and tazed him in response for some reason in a secluded area when he could've just told him to escort him to the EZ or made him sign the so called "secrecy agreement" there and then. Why the SD is even being reported is still beyond me considering this player followed the person who had the face-scanner ON PURPOSE, AWARE THE SITE WAS BEING FACESCANNED.

 

I don't care at this point if you people keep calling me a retard, you all cry for change and the "better" of the server, but you are all just extremely toxic and have such a limited and idiotic take on literally everything in the SCP universe. When the server does eventually die, which it will at this rate, you kids are just gonna go look for people to blame like me for some reason when I play the server once or twice every week, and I don't even have any real impact on changing the RP or pacing of the server, so everything that's wrong with it which you people cry about day-in and day-out on the discord in the community-suggestions is all caused by you people who play daily, not me.

Grow up and educate yourselves or something, it's just embarrassing sometimes with how you people act.

[Atomik 248]

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

Internal Security Department are members of their respective Departments handed extra responsibility to root out deep cover traitors within their respective departments whilst still carrying out their job. A Service Personnel (A D Class) with a taser and cuffs running around cuffing people doesn't exactly match what the Internal Security Department is.

Clearly doesnt know what ISD does or how it works.  Whilst you got the purpose correct, ISD isnt a fucking MTF that only does ISD shit.  ISD Agents are recruited from highly trustworthy personnel, and are to continue with their regular duties to maintain cover, as completely removing them from their job does the opposiate of keeping ISD secret.  This argument is simply the worst thing you couldve said regarding this, as how it works in game isnt up to you, and your opinion on how it should work doesnt matter (especially how you are wrong).

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

Cuffed him so he could sign a "secrecy contract", sorry but from my experience. That's never ever happened to me, I just get thrown in the cells for "breaking cover" and/or "attempting to detain a member of the ISD", then I get demoted by the SD or executed after waiting 10 minutes facing the wall in a jail cell with no trial. So I believe my assumption is fair in saying that this guy probably just got thrown in the cells and no actual procedural follow-up was even carried out.

Your assumption isnt fair in the slightest.  This situation is different, as nothing revolves around you, especially not ISD.  This simply demonstrates the lack of understanding of ISD, as you clearly dont know how Amnestics nor NDA's work.  Not to mention this isnt about the fucking E-11, its about the SD ordering such, so you bringing this up is not only irrelevant, but flooding this thread with your drool

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

Simple fact is, if a full-site face-scan is being issued, he should either participate or report to the SD to report back to him and maintain his cover. If his cover is that important, he should take steps to preserve it, not run around aimlessly like a monkey following the on-site Security who have been tasked to break people's cover.

This shouldnt be necessary, as Site Directors shouldnt be pulling this retarded move at all.  No idea why you have a hate boner for ISD, but your bias is clearly shown in this entire thread, and is not only giving you a bad name, but showing other people that you really dont understand ISD, which could also lead to you not understanding other aspects of SCP-RP too.

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

It makes 0 sense and nobody should be warned for what happened, it is clear that this player is at fault in every respect and angle possible in this situation.

Leads to my last point, situation shouldnt have been created as the SD shouldnt have ordered this.  The Site Director ordered a mass scanning of personnel for no reason, which is unacceptable, and if any O5 Council Member was on, he would have been reprimanded because of this.

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

And even then playing it off becomes impossible because he went and cuffed the MTF and tazed him in response for some reason in a secluded area when he could've just told him to escort him to the EZ or made him sign the so called "secrecy agreement" there and then.

Leads to my point about thinking ISD runs on what he thinks, wont linger on this.

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

Why the SD is even being reported is still beyond me considering this player followed the person who had the face-scanner ON PURPOSE, AWARE THE SITE WAS BEING FACESCANNED.

Clearly hasnt read the full thread nor thought this through, as SD shouldnt have ordered this, thus the thread

 

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

I don't care at this point if you people keep calling me a retard, you all cry for change and the "better" of the server, but you are all just extremely toxic and have such a limited and idiotic take on literally everything in the SCP universe. When the server does eventually die, which it will at this rate, you kids are just gonna go look for people to blame like me for some reason when I play the server once or twice every week, and I don't even have any real impact on changing the RP or pacing of the server, so everything that's wrong with it which you people cry about day-in and day-out on the discord in the community-suggestions is all caused by you people who play daily, not me.

Grow up and educate yourselves or something, it's just embarrassing sometimes with how you people act.

Whole section reeks of entitlement, thinking everything revolved around him and how he is right and we all are wrong.  Honestly surprised on how you thought this was acceptable.  Also, yes, people will blame not only you, but people like you, as you are extremely toxic and dont understand that they are apart of the problem.  Toxicity is a huge issue, and you are a great example.

 

Overall, this thread is just shows how people should read the thread before making a decision, and how toxic people can be on forums.

[Plod Wolvenclaw 1]

18 hours ago, Atomik said:

Clearly doesnt know what ISD does or how it works.  Whilst you got the purpose correct, ISD isnt a fucking MTF that only does ISD shit.  ISD Agents are recruited from highly trustworthy personnel, and are to continue with their regular duties to maintain cover, as completely removing them from their job does the opposiate of keeping ISD secret.  This argument is simply the worst thing you couldve said regarding this, as how it works in game isnt up to you, and your opinion on how it should work doesnt matter (especially how you are wrong).

Your assumption isnt fair in the slightest.  This situation is different, as nothing revolves around you, especially not ISD.  This simply demonstrates the lack of understanding of ISD, as you clearly dont know how Amnestics nor NDA's work.  Not to mention this isnt about the fucking E-11, its about the SD ordering such, so you bringing this up is not only irrelevant, but flooding this thread with your drool

This shouldnt be necessary, as Site Directors shouldnt be pulling this retarded move at all.  No idea why you have a hate boner for ISD, but your bias is clearly shown in this entire thread, and is not only giving you a bad name, but showing other people that you really dont understand ISD, which could also lead to you not understanding other aspects of SCP-RP too.

Leads to my last point, situation shouldnt have been created as the SD shouldnt have ordered this.  The Site Director ordered a mass scanning of personnel for no reason, which is unacceptable, and if any O5 Council Member was on, he would have been reprimanded because of this.

Leads to my point about thinking ISD runs on what he thinks, wont linger on this.

Clearly hasnt read the full thread nor thought this through, as SD shouldnt have ordered this, thus the thread

 

Whole section reeks of entitlement, thinking everything revolved around him and how he is right and we all are wrong.  Honestly surprised on how you thought this was acceptable.  Also, yes, people will blame not only you, but people like you, as you are extremely toxic and dont understand that they are apart of the problem.  Toxicity is a huge issue, and you are a great example.

 

Overall, this thread is just shows how people should read the thread before making a decision, and how toxic people can be on forums.

i disagree

 

On 6/22/2020 at 12:40 AM, Centurion said:

Simple fact is, if you were doing your job as ISD correctly by actually Roleplaying you wouldn't even be in this situation where you feel the need to write such a stupid thread like this.

 

[Xunt 565]

Denied

First of all the SD never actually ordered a site wide face scan, he simply asked MTF to check everyones IDs. I see absolutely no issue in SD/O5 ordering a site wide ID check if they feel there's a breach of security, he even says there's intruders releasing D Class. I don't know why the MTF decided to face scan you when the SD ordered everyones ID to be checked but that would have very likely been a verbal warn as it's a minor mistake.

I must agree with Centurion and point out how stupid you were being by following the MTF Unit around during a site wide shakedown, how stupid it was to the arrest him for doing his job, and how stupid it was to not look at comms. Honestly have to question your ability to play the job going off this video.