Agent Kent warn request by Kyle Webb

[kenopsia 130]

Your name in-game: Kyle Webb

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:146530822

Person's you report name: Agent Kent

Person's you report SteamID: STEAM_0:0:245516933

Why do you want him warned?: RDM 

Evidence(It's a must. If not provided, request is denied.): https://streamable.com/k7klub  (sorry for shit quality)

[Lando Lovelace 229]

You could have said "Oh I'm not hostile" and tried to sort it out peacefully, you then began to walk away so he shot you.

-1

[kenopsia 130]

11 minutes ago, Lando Norris said:

You could have said "Oh I'm not hostile" and tried to sort it out peacefully, you then began to walk away so he shot you.

-1

It's not like I started running away. Instead of killing me he could've cuffed me 

[Johnwickisblak 226]

-1 

- Third Person Abused in the video

- They can't know if you're hostile or not, despite what you say in OOC chat (Cause it's OOC chat...)

- Civilians shouldn't even be in the Foundation, Hostile or not.

- He was given orders and he followed them, and the orders were 100% valid. 

 

Edited December 4, 2020 by Johnwickisblak
Didn't notice the video, watched it and changed my -1

[Jason Ray 82]

7 minutes ago, Johnwickisblak said:

Lack of evidence 

Did you watch the video?

 

[Johnwickisblak 226]

37 minutes ago, Jason Ray said:

Did you watch the video?

 

I didn't notice the video lol

[Luke Holding 15]

+1

Yeah, its ovbious RDM. There was no proof on kent killing the person. Didnt even weapon check. If he cuffed then it would of been good but him killing without allowing a RP response to the AOS/KOS then yeah. Also didnt ask for ID as they could of killed an FA with that

Edited December 4, 2020 by Luke Holding

[kenopsia 130]

4 hours ago, Johnwickisblak said:

-1 

- Third Person Abused in the video

- They can't know if you're hostile or not, despite what you say in OOC chat (Cause it's OOC chat...)

- Civilians shouldn't even be in the Foundation, Hostile or not.

- He was given orders and he followed them, and the orders were 100% valid. 

 

- i always play on third person

- i did not pull out a gun at any moment nor tried to run away

- it is completely allowed to have a civilian disguise inside EZ

- the orders were invalid in the first place, I was never hostile to anybody and Agent Kent could've judged the situation himself, instead of shooting somebody who is literally not acting hostile in any way he could've instead cuffed me and this could've led to an interrogation RP as I was with the other civilian who ended up becoming hostile. But he decided to just shoot me which ruined RP.

[Johnwickisblak 226]

10 minutes ago, Kyle Webb said:

- i always play on third person

- i did not pull out a gun at any moment nor tried to run away

- it is completely allowed to have a civilian disguise inside EZ

- the orders were invalid in the first place, I was never hostile to anybody and Agent Kent could've judged the situation himself, instead of shooting somebody who is literally not acting hostile in any way he could've instead cuffed me and this could've led to an interrogation RP as I was with the other civilian who ended up becoming hostile. But he decided to just shoot me which ruined RP.

1. Doesn't mean you can third person abuse...

2. He warned  you.

3. Said no where. 

4. I can't say anything to that, as you provided a 30 second video, so I don't know if you were hostile.

[kenopsia 130]

5 minutes ago, Johnwickisblak said:

1. Doesn't mean you can third person abuse...

2. He warned  you.

3. Said no where. 

4. I can't say anything to that, as you provided a 30 second video, so I don't know if you were hostile.

are you sure he warned me? i dont see him warning me in the video. Also you think I would be able to survive if I fired even one bullet to any of the MTF? and how is using third person relevant to what we are discussing? its also common knowledge that you can't hold suspicion on civs in EZ unless they act suspicious in ways which are noted in the server rules, otherwise it is metagaming. Like Luke Holding said above:

1 hour ago, Luke Holding said:

Also didnt ask for ID as they could of killed an FA with that

There could've been a FA wearing a civilian disguise in EZ. He is not obligated to take off his disguise.

Lastly, if you check the screenshot of the chat I provided, even Nell hadn't seen me act hostile and he gave the order based on another civs actions, so how does that make the order valid? that is no different than seeing a disguised researcher kill someone and ordering for all researchers to be AOS/KOS. Does that really make any sense to you in any way?

[Jason Ray 82]

6 minutes ago, Kyle Webb said:

There could've been a FA wearing a civilian disguise in EZ. He is not obligated to take off his disguise.

An fa would have and should have said he was an fa if an fa didn't it's their own fault considering there was an aos/kos order

Although he should have attempted detainment, you walked away saying nothing which CAN be considered suspicious 

[Jason Ray 82]

Also, I mostly agree with Hannibal 

[Jason Ray 82]

7 minutes ago, Hannibal Lectuce said:

I don't know about the FA example but Kyle literally walked two meters in a span of 1 or 2 seconds, and he had no where to go. This dude's last resort was literally termination and he used it first.

That's why I said suspicious, cause it's not enough for termination

[kenopsia 130]

8 minutes ago, Jason Ray said:

That's why I said suspicious, cause it's not enough for termination

thanks for agreeing that its not enough for termination, but does that change your -1 to a +1? 

[Jason Ray 82]

1 minute ago, Kyle Webb said:

thanks for agreeing that its not enough for termination, but does that change your -1 to a +1? 

I never said -1, for now I'm neutral, I'll probably decide tomorrow 

[Xunt 565]

Denied

Site was currently being attacked as seen in the video, a KoS/AoS order is given out on all civilians (Which you saw) and you decided to run away from the MTF Unit pointing a gun at you. Really don't know what you thought was going to happen. You will also be recieving a warn for Third Person abuse, as you are clearly shown using third person to peek around a corner.