Bread 570 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Lore: ''Sierra-23'' which had been created by the O5 Council to manage large scale anomalous threats with advanced and tangential technology. However early after the creation of the MTF, which recruited over-performing members of other task forces, a large-scale raid by [REDACTED] at site-[REDACTED] the group proved to excel at dealing with raid on foundation facilities. Today the group has been renamed to Ha-23 ''Sierra'' with the newfound purpose of preventing and counter-acting raids. Launching pre-emptive attacks when necessary, Task Force Sierra have been stationed at site-[REDACTED] to prevent attacks from the outside forces, due to the high amount of GOIs (groups of interest) present in the area of Ovis City. Spoiler Purpose:Ha-23's main purpose is to give the foundation intel about the surface's current situation and to give an advantage of the raids that the site is actively receiving, the foundation currently has a strong advantage over its defence, but a very weak offence position, this is mostly due to the fact that the foundation is poorly prepared for the dangers ahead and the advantage of having a recon scout team to support them with intel and firepower will be a benefit to any surface operations and event. Harrow-23 will be an active surface unit and will provide help to field agents and other units as a QRF (quick reaction force) if needed. In summary, Harrow-23 will work as a scout team and QRF to friendly units. Spoiler Loadout - jobs Ha-23 Scout: (Two slot) Weapons: Sniper rifles (All) SMGs (MP9, MP7 and vector) No pistols All cuffs Anomaly scanner Hacking keycard & Lockpick Climbing rope (note: Range needs nerfing) Model: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=861236910 Ha-23 Specialist: (Two slot) Weapons: Assault Rifles (ACR, AR-15, QBZ) Pistols (P99, FiveSeven, MR96 revolver, B23R, H&K MK23) Breaching charges Riot shield Deployable drone All cuffs Hacking keycard & Lockpick Model: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=243952088 (Red eyes PM) Ha-23 Operative: (Four slot) Weapons: Assault Rifles (ACR, G3A3, H&K G36c) No SMGs Pistols (P99, FiveSeven, MR96 revolver, B23R, H&K MK23) All cuffs Hacking keycard & Lockpick Model: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=243952088 (More armoured PM) Spoiler Applications - https://forms.gle/fYcooByhKiCQQvTz9 Spoiler Management Owner - BansheeCo-Owner - Bread (me)Manager - Dante Wellson Fayne™, Oliver Bays, Willrick and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Jason Ray 82 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +1 Hell yea The foundation is strong on defense but weak on offense Link to comment
Fayne™ 242 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +1 I like the idea, not sure how balanced is having a scout unit with both sniper rifles and SMG's . I wouldn't mind seeing this on the server with a bit of tweaking. Link to comment
Mark Kuntson 178 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Glorified Field Agent man, although big efford and interesting task force. Poop Link to comment
Jason Ray 82 Share Posted May 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, Mark Kuntson said: Glorified Field Agent man, although big efford and interesting task force. That's we you're wrong kiddo, yes I'm going to correct you, so far I really like Harrow and it's not just a glorified field Agent job, it's an MTF tasked with scouting the surface, raiding GOIs, being a qrf and establishing a Foundation presence on the surface, a task which hasn't been accomplished by field agents or other MTFs, Harrow is needed, not to defend but to actually establish a Foundation presence outside the subway, with the possibility to rp on the surface(yes I understand Harrow) Link to comment
Victorious 21 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) -1 NU-7, Epsilon-11, Beta-7, Beta-1 & Alpha-1 (And if you want to you can count Omega-12 & Sigma-66 you can even though there’s no point to) We have 5 whole Mobile Task Forces on the server. This is a good suggestion however at this current time we do not need any more, however, in the future this can be taken into consideration whenever an MTF is being taken into account. Also tbh this seems like a combined nu-7 and beta-1 so no point in adding it now. Edited May 30, 2020 by rosescy Link to comment
Banshee 23 Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, rosescy said: -1 NU-7, Epsilon-11, Beta-7, Beta-1 & Alpha-1 (And if you want to you can count Omega-12 & Sigma-66 you can even though there’s no point to) We have 5 whole Mobile Task Forces on the server. This is a good suggestion however at this current time we do not need any more, however, in the future this can be taken into consideration whenever an MTF is being taken into account. Also tbh this seems like a combined nu-7 and beta-1 so no point in adding it now. I hate to break it to you but only Nu-7 can go on the surface out of those jobs and Harrow is a surface driven job. So there will only be one other MTF group with this type of roleplay. And how is it close to B1? We have nothing in common The only thing I am proud of in this community is managing SDTF-191 I did the !slay @ when I was super-admin Link to comment
Victorious 21 Share Posted May 30, 2020 50 minutes ago, Banshee said: I hate to break it to you but only Nu-7 can go on the surface out of those jobs and Harrow is a surface driven job. So there will only be one other MTF group with this type of roleplay. And how is it close to B1? We have nothing in common gonna be honest, it just seems like countering GOI’s and going on the surface hence why I made that comparison. also mainly we don’t need anymore MTFs ok? ok. Link to comment
Banshee 23 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, rosescy said: gonna be honest, it just seems like countering GOI’s and going on the surface hence why I made that comparison. also mainly we don’t need anymore MTFs ok? ok. Server management disagrees with you, as we need offensive mtfs. But i see where you are coming from The only thing I am proud of in this community is managing SDTF-191 I did the !slay @ when I was super-admin Link to comment
Jack Wasza 53 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) -1 Gotta agree with Rose, anymore MTFs aren't really necessary and the addition of another MTF will just spread the playerbase unevenly among jobs. That's not taking TRO into consideration either. In addition to this foundation presence doesn't really need to be more established on the surface, as it's unrealistic and normality on the surface already seems like a joke as it is. NU7 also has scouts, I would be neutral if this acted as a replacement for NU7 but in my opinion Lota-10 would be a better fit for a replacement of both NU7 & Field agent. Edited May 31, 2020 by Jack Wasza Signature Restrictions Please ensure your signature complies with the following restrictions: Maximum of 1 image Images up to 440 x 240 pixels Maximum of 5 lines View signatures? fuck me Link to comment
Jason Ray 82 Share Posted May 31, 2020 While Wasza has a point with this: another MTF will just spread the playerbase No one asked for B-7, B-7 doesnt do much overall except give non donators the ability to play MTFs A-1, B-1 and E-11 arent designed to hold the surface, Nu-7 is sort of but Nu-7 doesnt do it as they have to do security's job E-11 is designed to get anomalies from the surface and contain them A-1 and B-1 are both meant to stay in a facility No im not arguing, I'm just trying to have a conversation on the forums, even though thats impossible Willrick 1 Link to comment
Jason Ray 82 Share Posted May 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, Borat Koslowski said: where tf did you read that B1 is supossed to stay in the facility They can always go out if needed They can but its not their job, ingame they are a sort of MP, they enforce laws, help defend and find leaks/traitors Dante Wellson 1 Link to comment
Banshee 23 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Borat Koslowski said: Neutral Bad Owner You keep writing it with no valdid points, but yeah and no B1 is strictly in the facility, the group has always been inside the facity and can only go out with perms like e11. Willrick 1 The only thing I am proud of in this community is managing SDTF-191 I did the !slay @ when I was super-admin Link to comment
Banshee 23 Share Posted May 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, Borat Koslowski said: stupid B1 has always been like that, Juan demoted people doing it same did I back when it was first made. B1 has no reason to go om the surface, even Willrick was warned about before he got Owner of it Only group that are a surface task force is nu7 and they cant handle 3 gois and PD alone Willrick 1 The only thing I am proud of in this community is managing SDTF-191 I did the !slay @ when I was super-admin Link to comment
Jack Wasza 53 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Jason Ray said: While Wasza has a point with this: another MTF will just spread the playerbase No one asked for B-7, B-7 doesnt do much overall except give non donators the ability to play MTFs A-1, B-1 and E-11 arent designed to hold the surface, Nu-7 is sort of but Nu-7 doesnt do it as they have to do security's job E-11 is designed to get anomalies from the surface and contain them A-1 and B-1 are both meant to stay in a facility No im not arguing, I'm just trying to have a conversation on the forums, even though thats impossible I understand this, but it still doesn't change the fact that another MTF is unnecessary. NU7 has the capabilities to complete scouting missions or the better alternate is Field agents, it all comes down to how the HOEA manages the surface. Another reason to why I strongly disagree with this as well is because one of the Foundation's primary objectives is to sustain normality something the surface extremely lacks. If this MTF was added it would just contribute to the abnormality of the surface as I feel as if it would result in what NU7 did for a fews months with the "FOBS" where Foundation would constantly be compromised. There's simply no need for a constant military like presence on surface if there was we might as well accept Bobby's outright stupid suggestions for PD. To be frankly honest as well, this job barely differs from NU7. The need for an offensive MTF? I mean realistically NU7 and field agents can do all the objectives stated above, only if their Commander or HOEA is competent and organises their units appropriately. NU7 doesn't have to act as security.... We don't need all these " specialised " MTFs especially when their purpose can easily be completed by another, they don't drastically change RP nor contribute to anything. Edited May 31, 2020 by Jack Wasza Signature Restrictions Please ensure your signature complies with the following restrictions: Maximum of 1 image Images up to 440 x 240 pixels Maximum of 5 lines View signatures? fuck me Link to comment
Xunt 565 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Accepted After discussing drastic changes to this job with Bread in Teamspeak we've decided to add this to the server as a much smaller MTF similar in size to Beta-7. The group will be very strict with who it allows in and will have specialised gear for surface and scouting ops. This MTF will be added in the coming weeks. Link to comment