Henk - DutchDavin 46 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) My In-Game name: CE PFT Colonel Henk STEAMID: (http://steamidfinder.com)STEAM_0:1:531754676Steam Name:DutchDavinWhat is the reason for your ban:MRDM x5 AMRDM x11 How long were you banned for:1 week 3 days (10 days)Name of the staff member who banned you:ZoriWhy do I believe that I should be unbanned:So the shooting rockets part has happen before but every time it has happen it was on a PFT. It is a glitch it happens sometimes when I tab out and tab back it starts shooting the secondary cannons ( it is also completely random so it didn't come to my mind that I should have checked if it was glitched it happens rarely) . but this time when i tabbed out and back in I was still in the front of the briefing and i had my keys in my hand. So I didn't notice it was glitched until I got in the ship and when I got in the ship the damage was already done.Evidence: i only have a video of the rockets getting shot at the debrief. (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457898344111407135/861263833100582932/Laat_Debrif_killing.mp4) i understand that the admins can't prove that it was a glitch and they are just doing there job. but the only thing i could defend myself with is that i never got warned or banned before and looking to my rank why would i do this? i also got Plat VIP and pac-3 why would i get that stuff and then commiting MRDM that is just throwing away money and time. At last i would like to apologize to everyone that i have killed it wasnt my intension and i will try to make sure it doesnt happen again. I hope the warns can get changed to accidental because it was an accident. [Edit]: apparently i had attack+2 on i didnt know it existed and what it was but it is turned off now Edited July 4, 2021 by Henk - DutchDavin Ben R 1 Current Rank's: Resident of the CWRP Retirement home Past Rank's: CE Marshal Commander CWRP Executive Administrator Link to comment
Shepherd 98 Share Posted July 4, 2021 +1 In my experience, I do find the LAAT bombs very sensitive. Also Henk would have no gain as with what he stated, he has spent money on the server and has reached a relatively high rank. I also find it unfortunate that the LAATs were facing towards the MHB but all-in-all it was an accident. Current Ranks [CWRP] Admiral | Reserve Medic CWRP Super Administrator | Lead Mentor Past Ranks [CWRP] CE Marshal Commander | 74th ST MD | CT TRP "4625" - CT PVT | CT DCPL Jedi Sage | Jedi Warlock | Jedi Sentinel | Jedi Shadow | Jedi Peacekeeper Event Planner | Staff Mentor [WW2 1943RP] Panzer-Abteilung "Großdeutschland" Gefreiter - Unteroffizere (13/02/21 - 25/03/21) [IRP] ST TRP "4625" | JT Corporal | IE BFT PFC | 501st PFC Rebel Alpha Group Major Link to comment
Ben R 20 Share Posted July 4, 2021 +1 The only wrongdoing here was the facing of the LAATs, i’m sure we can rest assured that won’t happen again. Henk’s a good man, this was entirely unintentional and I can promise he wouldn’t dream of doing this again, albeit a glitch. Current Ranks -----------------------------------DS Commando F75 CWRP Vice ManagerPast Ranks -----------------------------------Flight Show ExtraordinaireCE ARC ColonelJedi Ace104th Temp Executive Officer CT Temp Vice Commander Link to comment
Arrow 35 Share Posted July 4, 2021 +1 This man has done nothing And The LAATS where facing towards MHB I think this is just a honest mistake But i would think the cause of this is +Attack2 But Idk "Current Ranks" Idk something "Past Ranks" Battalion CPT - Tech - Jedi Ace - Caesar Leutnant - WW2 Event Planner - GM SpecOps COL Link to comment
Aleks 129 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Neutral Idk if it was a glitch or not but you got off lucky it being so little time could of been much longer but also LAAT should not face debreif as well incase something like that happens Current Ranks: RC Commander F68 SWRP CWRP Staff Manager Previous Ranks: OS Squad Leader F68 21st Best Model 21st/GM Nova Corps Senior Commander SWRP CWRP Super Admin SWRP CWRP Lead Mentor Jedi Champion Jedi Specialist Jedi Paladin Plo Koon (Jedi High Council) Link to comment
[W-G] JH 87 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Demotion Name: Warden From rank: CG Executive Officer To rank: CG Colonel Reason: Destroying a LAAT and killing the 5 people in it with a gunball turret Date: 06/01/2021 Neutral but could seem unfair as previous people have done the same before and still faced punishment. Edited July 4, 2021 by [W-G] JH Link to comment
Navas 74 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Accident or not should still be punished imo. Lucky for it to just be 10 days as it is. Current Ranks: Previous Ranks Happy Less happy Link to comment
Ben R 20 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Barry said: Yeah my bad on the LAAT placements, but i wouldn't call that a "wrongdoing" as 99/100 debriefs wouldnt end up getting blown up. In all honesty though yeah the guy obvs hasn't done it on purpose, honest mistake and doesn't deserve a ban. Good point, sorry about that just used the wrong wording. Edited July 4, 2021 by Ben Rafferty Current Ranks -----------------------------------DS Commando F75 CWRP Vice ManagerPast Ranks -----------------------------------Flight Show ExtraordinaireCE ARC ColonelJedi Ace104th Temp Executive Officer CT Temp Vice Commander Link to comment
Toon 28 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, [W-G] JH said: Demotion Name: Warden From rank: CG Executive Officer To rank: CG Colonel Reason: Destroying a LAAT and killing the 5 people in it with a gunball turret Date: 06/01/2021 Neutral but could seem unfair as previous people have done the same before and still faced punishment. 0 -- I stay neutral purly because it would be bias for me to give an opinion on this subject. Difference is Warden didn't do it by accident, he took control of the ball turrets and purposfully shot down the the other LAAT in the air, as well as attempting to take another one down. The reason I am so sure on this is I was the one that banned him and his companion, thus causing said demotion. Edited July 5, 2021 by Toon Spelling Error Ben R 1 Spoiler Credit to Loki for this. Current Ranks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grand Admiral SWRP Manager 212th ET Previous Ranks ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Admirality - lol skipped VA m8 CE Marshal Commander (Temp) DU Marshal Commander (Temp) 21st Marshal Commander (Temp) CG Vice Commander Jedi Padawan - Like a boss 41st NCO Fallschirmjager - Jäger Caesar Obergefreiter IE ET Link to comment
Klavigar 34 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) -1 Ok I am going to explain why I am giving you a -1. Now I understand that accidents can happen and they happen quite a lot, but the difference here is that you shot 4 times killing 4+ people in the briefing. Even if it was done by a bug (never happened to me), you still got off pretty fine as I mean for MRDM x5 AMRDM x11 you would have received a lot higher punishments normally. The other things is that you stated that you knew about this bug and that it sometimes happens when you tab of the game while getting into the LAAT and then tabbing back in. I mean if you knew about it why would you even consider tabbing out at that moment, it would have been safer to just wait those 2 minutes. Also that attack2+ being on, yeah I am not really buying that as even if you played jedi a lot and AFKed for levels with attack2+ every jedi always turns it off once they are done and I highly doubt that you forgat about it and discovered it only once you started shooting. As unfortune as it is staff still couldn't just let you go without a punishment and in your case 1 w and 3 days for all of that is pretty damn generous of staff. Edited July 4, 2021 by Klavigar Current ranks HLRP Trial mod Link to comment
[W-G] JH 87 Share Posted July 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, Toon said: 0 -- I stay neutral purly because it would be bias for me to give an opinion on this subject. Difference is Wardon didn't do it by accident, he took control of the ball turrets and purposfully shot down the the other LAAT in the air, as well as attempting to take another one down. The reason I am so sure on this is I was the one that banned him and his companion, thus causing said demotion. Fair enough, but I thought the time Warden did it, it was accidental. Link to comment
Tempest 15 Share Posted July 4, 2021 +1 I've done the +atk2 before on Anaxes(luckily only firing into mountains) Henk is a chill guy and I don't think he'd ever MRDM, he was always the one stopping us from minging and he's a sensible dude. Free this man. Ben R 1 Link to comment
Lexi 0 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) +1 Incident does not match the general behaviour of this user, no prior incidents that share similarities. Banning a regular who also subscribed to the server to support it for a potential accident without clear evidence of intent would be a poor judgement call in my opinion. Even if the ban expires before this thread gets its final judgement, if considered innocent, should be pardoned after the fact on principle. Edited July 4, 2021 by Kenway -=Current Ranks=-N/A-=Past Ranks=-Jedi Knight | CG Colonel | Medic Link to comment
Silent 148 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Why the fuck did you get banned. Bobby RPGED the entire Ct line and didn't get a warn. You should be unbanned, because its by accident and you are not a useless member of the community. Punishment is not needed he will learn from this obviously. Keeping him banned won't prove anything. Lexi, Ben R and Toon 3 The Boys Link to comment
Loki 10 Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Silent said: Why the fuck did you get banned. Bobby RPGED the entire Ct line and didn't get a warn. You should be unbanned, because its by accident and you are not a useless member of the community. Punishment is not needed he will learn from this obviously. Keeping him banned won't prove anything. I agree and i am also for a unban, theres better known Players that got away with worse Stuff beforehand and nobody of them got kicked/banned/warned. Ben R 1 Seth was here Current Ranks: Battalion Major | Jedi Event Planner | Reserve Medic | CG DD | Jedi Ace Past Ranks: CE COL | Jedi Adept | Regimental Medic | 104th 2nd LT | 41st SGT | DU SGTM | 501st COL | Rancor Instructor Link to comment
Mike Hawt 14 Share Posted July 5, 2021 +1 It was a mistake and people have gotten away scot free for much worse mistakes. He didn't mean to do it, he's not some random no name CT #### that just came on the server with the intention to fuck around and should either be unbanned or have the ban time reduced to just 4 days or a week or smthing instead of 10. Ben R 1 Link to comment
Ron 56 Share Posted July 5, 2021 +1/Neutral Your excuse was a bit wank but if any high member on the server had done this no action would've been taken from so I think the length of ban was harsh. You are a bit in the wrong yourself but its a short ban so I wouldn't complain too much. I see both sides of it. GL Current Ranks[RC Vice Commander F67 Ron][CWRP Executive Admin][Discord Staff]Previous Ranks[DS Squad Leader F67][501st ARC Colonel][Jedi Ace] Link to comment
Lewis 46 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Accepted When you talked to me before, you didn't really have a real reason why it happened. As you have found out that it was because of +attack2 and you have a lot of positive feedback on the unban. You will be unbanned. Henk - DutchDavin, Ben R and Toon 3 Past SWRP Ranks CW Grand Admiral, CW Manager, CW 501st Commander x2, CW ARC Commander, CW RC OS Squad Leader F61, CW Jedi Fighter IRP Grand Admiral, IRP Vice Manager Link to comment