Schumach RDA

[Kuntess 0]

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Your In-Game name: Kuntess

Offender's In-Game name/s: Schumach

Steam ID of the offender/s: STEAM_0:0:123705376

Why should the offender/offenders be banned?: I dont know how the punishment sysyem works on this server but i think this is a warnable offence more than a bannable one. I was just vibing and saw this guy with a person he handcuffed. I went up to then and accidentally pressed e so it started the release sound but i stopped and backed off as soon as i read the "releasing" text. Even tho he knew that it was a missclick he still arrested me and he was even making fun of me because he knew it was a missclick but i couldn't do anything because i still did it even tho it was literally for half a second.

Evidence: I dont have hard evidence but i have 2 witnesses by the names of GM TRP Luck and 501st 2nd LT Jumbo Mumbo

Anything else to add: again, i dont know how the punishment system works but this is not ok. Him arresting me like this on purpose and also making fun of us after he does it. 

[Its Luck 0]

I was a witness, he didn't do it for more than the time he admitted to. He was arrested for 10 minutes I believe. A bit too much time, wasn't even warned. Let's be honest. CG have their rule book, fine but where was the warning?

Does there need to be one? if not, then there does. Not everyone knows CG rules off by heart.

[Kuntess 0]

May i also add that he is harassing a person who just got released from jail by constantly crouch and following them so he can arrest them when they do the slightest mistake without any warning

[Auster Schumacher 1,103]

Good Morning! As the Player, or Security Staff in this Case, in Question, I guess I shall respond.

In regards to the Brig Punishment Guide, "Releasing Prisoner(s)" Fall under the following category for detainment.

Releasing prisoner(s):
Trying To Release Prisoner(s) 10min
Releasing Prisoner 15min

As you can see, no warning is required, and there is no way for me to know if the attempted release was an "accident" or not, as you may of genuinely wished to free the prisoner, but stopped after realising you were in the wrong. Either way, I do apologise if you somehow perceive this as a case of RDA, but at the same time, no warning is issued, and you did attempt to free him as stated in this ban request, and by me in my response, so prompting a valid response that any CG member would undertake. 

*Edit: The crouching is not intentional, but was and currently [still playing at the time of posting], due to a computer keyboard issue, the "harassment" and "stalking" is valid, as you [the people currently on], are the only people on, and as such I may as well follow you around and continue to enforce the rules of the base with, or without warning depending on the specifics of the situation at hand. 

[Kuntess 0]

I did not stop after realizing i was in wrong, i stopped after i realized i am freeing the prisoner so i stopped immediately

[Auster Schumacher 1,103]

Okay, good for you, but at that time, you had already committed an arrest-able offence, and as such the correct punishment swiftly followed.  

[Nathan 72]

You commited the crime, gotta do the time.

[inactive account 40]

Releasing someone is an IC offence, and realistically IC you wouldn't "accidentally" release someone. You were just unlucky. Schumacher was just doing his job.

feelsbadman

 

[Bansheey 304]

Releasing someone is a arrest-able offence that is set in stone it is not his fault for your mistake. Also what Units said is also correct if the CG didn't do anything he could of been told off for FailRP when you did a IC decision

[Bansheey 304]

14 hours ago, Its Luck said:

I was a witness, he didn't do it for more than the time he admitted to. He was arrested for 10 minutes I believe. A bit too much time, wasn't even warned. Let's be honest. CG have their rule book, fine but where was the warning?

Does there need to be one? if not, then there does. Not everyone knows CG rules off by heart.

If you look at the brig punishment guide its says where you can give a verbal warning or not, i've left a link to the guide for you

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ltIdJLE9p-tsGRtTc_huQ56g_cxoYHLjVTYghn8_mw/view

[Joe Hamilton 22]

Wait so let me get this straight:
People here say its valid even tho Schumacher didnt deny it was just a missclick that was immedietly rectified by the offender?

I wonder if people are okay with this only  because of Schumachers rank or if a simple mistake is punishable like that now, as far as i know SWRP is not that super strict.

 

No offense to either party by the way. I just genuinely feel like if everybody says it was a misslick and the offender stopped immedietly then it is unjust and just being way too by the book.

It also is not RDA, but still in my opinion a dick move.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Joe Hamilton

[Silent 148]

You can't hate on Schumacher the rules of the server were put in place and there is a clear line between them. Meaning no leeway. Auster was following the rules that were put in place. There is no doubt that it may have been a dick move, however if it's a rule it must be followed.

[BeastTheNinja 29]

Sorry to say but its in the rule no verbal warning needed for attempting to realease prisoner even if its a missclick or not you will still be arrested since its a arresteable offence so shcumacher did nothing wrong 

[Silent 148]

I accidently shot him I tabbed in and accidently left clicked you gotta believe me man please 

[V2 13]

I was actually flying a ship and accidentally flew into the debrief because my monitor power supply died.

[Pro-Pain 3]

Denied

In this case Auster has not broken any rules or committed an offence of RDA the only thing this could be is him being overly strict however if you find that to be the case that is something you take up with the CG hierarchy as no admin perms were used and the offense is not warn able/ban able there is no punishment that needs to be applied