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you yourself were enticing people to get involved by saying "come here" which you can hear in the vid 
the fact you weren't "ruining rp" doesn't mean shit, the co owner of a server shouldn't be doing nor encouraging this sort of behaviour
"Also thank you for insulting our main manager at the end of your video (despite him doing literally nothing)."
exactly, he IS doing literally nothing, hence why i'm insulting him 

i join the server for like 15 mins and see this stuff
a warm welcome (or well, re welcome i guess) 
lorex (crimson) and norra (ludwig) (idk if anyone else was involved) (i also don't know if lorex is staff, i didn't check, nor do I care) 
apparently this is an entity called Polytrap or some shit? idfk
but it wasnt just me who was dying to this too, countless players had this stuff thrown at them, i believe the video captured a bit of it.
 yeah good shit guys wooo!! 
also sorry about low quality vid, youtube tings 
 

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is there even a point +1ing or -1ing threads anymore?
like you just have fuckin ppl +1ing with dumbass reasons lol
 

is there even a point +1ing or -1ing threads anymore?
like you just have fuckin ppl +1ing with dumbass reasons lol
 

is there even a point +1ing or -1ing threads anymore?
like you just have fuckin ppl +1ing with dumbass reasons lol
 

is there even a point +1ing or -1ing threads anymore?
like you just have fuckin ppl +1ing with dumbass reasons lol
 

ahhhh memories
as much as I believe CoTBG is the bread and butter of SCP lore, it just doesn't work on SCP RP. Everyone says its the fault of the playerbase, but it isn't - the group is just too boring to do - there's too many limits.
I mean sure, you can make cog statues, praise mekhane or WAN or whatever the fuck you wanna label him as, no matter which sect, you'll end up reaching a brick wall.
You have players who spend hours reading the lore, like myself, and just run out of ideas. We did all sorts in my Cogwork Orthodoxy, from building bases, raiding foundation, creating wars with IJAMEA (hehe) and other numerous GOIs, building statues, publishing lore in the discord, and then after about a month and a half, the group went inactive.
I know I'll get replies saying "Yeah but you abandoned it lolololol!", but while I did give ownerships to other people, I still observed the group, and I was the one still trying to get changes. 
Maybe you can do better Bill, but I doubt it, no offense. (nothing on you, just many have tried, and all have failed).
Perhaps CoTBG could work with a GOI rotation, or something, but it heavily relies on sarkics to function, if sarkics die, this dies too, and probably vice versa.
Sorry Bill
-1 
edit: also I ignored Fixer too, when he told me "don't suggest CoTBG, it will die" (obviously in more detail), I was like, nahhh it'll be fine, and exactly what Fixer said would happen, ended up happening.
Good luck. 

ahhhh memories
as much as I believe CoTBG is the bread and butter of SCP lore, it just doesn't work on SCP RP. Everyone says its the fault of the playerbase, but it isn't - the group is just too boring to do - there's too many limits.
I mean sure, you can make cog statues, praise mekhane or WAN or whatever the fuck you wanna label him as, no matter which sect, you'll end up reaching a brick wall.
You have players who spend hours reading the lore, like myself, and just run out of ideas. We did all sorts in my Cogwork Orthodoxy, from building bases, raiding foundation, creating wars with IJAMEA (hehe) and other numerous GOIs, building statues, publishing lore in the discord, and then after about a month and a half, the group went inactive.
I know I'll get replies saying "Yeah but you abandoned it lolololol!", but while I did give ownerships to other people, I still observed the group, and I was the one still trying to get changes. 
Maybe you can do better Bill, but I doubt it, no offense. (nothing on you, just many have tried, and all have failed).
Perhaps CoTBG could work with a GOI rotation, or something, but it heavily relies on sarkics to function, if sarkics die, this dies too, and probably vice versa.
Sorry Bill
-1 
edit: also I ignored Fixer too, when he told me "don't suggest CoTBG, it will die" (obviously in more detail), I was like, nahhh it'll be fine, and exactly what Fixer said would happen, ended up happening.
Good luck. 

Okay so as per my promise. I am someone who has owned CotBG once, managed it twice and managed sarkics twice if I remember correctly. I've seen these groups be exceptional, good, average and bad. Lately CotBG and sarkic cult has just been bad in all of it's instances. When I made CotBG in V5 things were alright. Then I got lazy and gave it over to Poofer. Now while he tried to do his best and despite his interest for CotBG he didn't do too well and neither did the church. So first thing already here is knowing the lore as the owner isn't enough. You have to execute the church right or it will just flop. But since I don't know you that well I can't speak on your management skills so I will assume you can pull it off for the sake of it.
Next issue are the players. The church is a lore based group. It depends on the players to know the lore otherwise yes it will become another GOI like CI. I am not saying they have to read every single article but they have to know things that would be crucial to the history and future of the religion. That's how you make this GOI unique. But most people don't really care about the lore plus those that do then have to specifically be interested in CotBG lore. What has changed since the last churches? This was somewhat of a problem in my iteration of the church as well. People knew the basic shit but if you cannot hold a sermon that preaches something else besides the origin of humanity then it will become dull and repetitive. Do you really believe people have changed that much?
Next issue is the leadership activity. Okay assuming you have a vision and bypass the previous issue by having few select people as leadership who know the lore well and the rest of the members know the basics. In this case the church would depend highly on your activity and the leadership as well. The main issue today is not even the fact that people don't care that much about the lore. It's the lack of independence in the playerbase. Most groups in order to function properly need an active leadership upon which the players have grown dependent on and it's one of the reasons I got tired of doing CotBG. Without me or someone else the job was just empty. How long will you do the church and how long until you get tired of it, hand it of to someone else and it most likely flopping? I understand  by that logic we shouldn't try to make new RP groups at all but this just me looking from a pesimistic point where he gets tired of it somewhat quickly like a month or two lets say.
But okay let us pretend the church lasts few good months and is healthily active. The next issue I have is that you have chosen the Cogwork Orthodoxy. Now this is more of a ''lord nerd'' problem so it is probably one of my weakest points. Cogwork Orthodoxy is the most zealous and intolerant branch of the church. If you are telling me this won't be leaning towards the active RP side of things then you are not doing the Cogwork Orthodoxy. The so called United Church which really just IS the Church of the Broken God cannot be nearly the same compared to the Cogwork Orthodoxy.
Next thing and this is the one that I feel like is the real purpose this is a bad thread and shows how blind most of these +1 are. The fucking purpose. You say you will be the Cogwork Orthodoxy but where is the explanation of what that means in the server standards. I know what the Cogwork Orthodoxy is but I imagine others have a completely different interpretation. It explains nothing and only implies what it will be. Extremely vague and general. Even if it was going to be the same as the previous iteration of the group then maybe copy and paste it at the very fucking least. Really I don't get these +1. They are so mindless and are only +1 because people know Bill Pill knows the lore and is passionate about the group. It does not mean that is a good reason to have this RP group on the server as I have previously mentioned that is not enough.
My final point is the CotBG and Sarkic cult dynamic. It does not work lol. When I owned CotBG both groups were on the server. What happened is that people most likely had WLs for both of the groups because people who are interested in sarkicism often enjoy playing CotBG as well. Well what happened was that the Sarkic cult died out because CotBG was newer and fresher. People just played that.  But okay CotBG and the sarkic cult are being added nearly next to each other if this gets accepted. Well then what kind of interactions can we expect from both groups? Either just raids or both groups staying away from each other or just pure mingery. That's what happened in my time and recently I saw the current sarkic cult go to the church where I believe the CotBG were there because of an event or something? I don't know. Well what happened is that the sarkics acted like pretentious assholes, put up a sign saying ''flesh rules'' and pretty sure one sarkic said he would pay a citizen if he took a dump on the floor. Honestly mindless raids sounds better than that. Then the sarkics told the cops there was a bomb in the church and you get the point. I will give props to CotBG event players for managing to remain passive through that ordeal but you get my point.
I have nothing against Bill Pill but every single fucking CotBG and Sarkic owner say that ''he will do it right and better because he actually knows the lore''. It is the same fucking reasoning to why it will work this time. I am sorry but I have heard it enough times to know it is complete bullshit. I could make more points but I believe I made enough.
If the church does get made I do wish Bill the best of luck with it and only hope he succeeds rather than fails despite my negativity here. I will only be happy to have him prove me wrong.

better than becoming an event character to shoot Council!

i join the server for like 15 mins and see this stuff
a warm welcome (or well, re welcome i guess) 
lorex (crimson) and norra (ludwig) (idk if anyone else was involved) (i also don't know if lorex is staff, i didn't check, nor do I care) 
apparently this is an entity called Polytrap or some shit? idfk
but it wasnt just me who was dying to this too, countless players had this stuff thrown at them, i believe the video captured a bit of it.
 yeah good shit guys wooo!! 
also sorry about low quality vid, youtube tings 
 

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fuck u norra
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Yeah bro, sure